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« on: May 05, 2005, 03:03:29 PM »

Courtesy of Phat VW from the Vortex. Thought It would Make a nice topic here as well.


Thanks to the input from manufacturers and vwvortex users, we now have a catalog of eight different camber plate options and two different upgraded spindle arrangements. Don't give up on the MkIV platform just yet!

Background:
The MkIV front suspension allows toe adjustments only. Minor camber adjustments can be made via shifting the subframe and loosening & re-torquing certain suspension bolts. But from a practical standpoint, camber & caster are fixed. For high-performance driving, especially autocross & track driving, a certain amount of negative camber is required to keep tire wear in check and help maintain cornering grip. Excessive negative camber can reduce grip in straight line and increase tire wear, so more than a degree or two is not recommended for street use. Camber plates allow the driver to customize the camber angle to optimize performance vs tire wear.

Please keep this thread clean and comment on the products if you have experience with them. Note that the products are listed in order of release date, newest items first. For unlisted products, please supply the following information:

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Install notes and other info



 
 
H2Sport Sport Camber Kit


Part
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1962106
http://www.h2sport.com
$235
Available now
"The Mounts are black anodized CNC machined billet aluminum utilizing race-quality spherical bearings (mono-balls) that combine to precisely locate the strut-top to the chassis for even better handling. Furthermore, they fit directly into the stock shock tower – no cutting or drilling holes required. Simply remove the stock rubber mounts from your stock or aftermarket suspension, and install our Mounts. " Adds up to -1° camber on each front wheel
 
H-Sport Camber plate kit


Part 30813
http://www.pure-motorsport.com/products/description.php/II=1003/CA=534/PA=7
$359.95/pair
Available now (low stock)
Adjustability: -.25 to 1.25 (Using OE Style Coils)
Will not alter ride height. Not designed for coilovers. Uses oem bearing. Requires drilling three holes in strut tower.
 
 
Bildon/Erickson Motorsport


Part #:TAS0271
http://www.bildon.com/catalog/DetailsList.cfm?ID=TAS0271
$198.92/pair
Available now
"139mm OD top strut mount as used on the Erickson Motorsport World Challenge GTI! For precise top suspension body location and positive steering geometry. Made from billet aluminum complete with motorsport quality 20mm ID bearing, sleeve nuts and spacers. This eccentric mount is for use with 2.5" (60mm) diameter racing springs. Fits standard inner strut mount position. No cutting needed."
 
 
Ground Control:

SKU #ccpa4
http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php?II=653
http://home.comcast.net/~stevennguyen123/Photos/Prototypes/FinalProductionVersion
Contact Reflexgti for more info, or order online
$339-349/pair
Available for spring/shock, 60mm, 2.25", and 2.5" coilover equipped cars
Installs without drilling or strut tower modification.
Uses high grade spherical bearing and special load bearing top hat.
Two-way, fully independent camber and caster adjustment.
Approx -1.8° camber gain over OEM. (Test car produced -2.5° camber on each wheel.)
Replaces all factory hardware from the spring up.
May drop front ride height by 1/4".
Ride comfort may be reduced.
 
 
SPC/Eibach:


Part# 81340
http://www.specprod.com/PROD_DIR/C_PROD_passcar_SEARCH_DYN.cfm?cmd=Cam&cmd2=81340&cmd3
http://stores.ebay.com/Prosuspension_VW-Alignment-Items
http://www.coximport.com/store/EI5-81340K
http://www.modacar.com/products/Audi/TT/MODACAK
http://www.nopionline.com
$126-$170/pair
available now
continuously adjustable front camber/caster up to +/- 1.25° on top of OEM spec
camber/caster are not independently adjustable
does not require drilling or cutting
replaces oem rubber strut mounts with stiffer rubber units and may alter front ride height +/- 1/4"
uses oem strut bearings
supplied top strut nut in early kits do not fit - get correct replacement from SPC or use oem VW part #N90353603 instead (AM14x1.5mm self locking nut) Also, use a new inner nut (strut bushing) VW part #1H0412365A for best fit.
install notes: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1432095&postid=16696272#16696272
use a rachet extension to ensure square holes line up when tightening inner nut!!!
if your plates are squeaking or are slanting on the strut tower, see: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zer...40546 you can also contact SPC to source replacement top plates and nuts if yours are bent
 
 
Shine Racing:

Part #CPVWADJ (MkIV)
http://www.srsvw.com
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1313315
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1369239
without perches: $200/pair, with stock-style spring perches: $259/pair, with coilover perches: $269/pair
available now
fixed front camber change of approx -1.5° on top of OEM spec
camber/caster are not independently adjustable
replaces soft upper strut mount with stiff heavy duty units
intended for race use
requires drilling two holes per strut tower, but no cutting
plates can be re-drilled and/or rotated prior to install to achieve different caster/camber changes according to Dick Shine
may lower front suspension 1/4"
 
 
K-mac:

Part #141016 K
http://www.k-mac.com.au/makes/volks.htm
http://www.shox.com/appguide/shoxshop/
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1138793
$369-$465/pair
available now (overseas special order: lead time is 2-3 weeks)
replaces upper strut mounts providing Camber and Caster adjustment up to approx 1.5°
camber/caster are not independently adjustable
no cutting, but requires drilling 3 holes
may require modification of the hood support bracket on strut tower
comes with thin polyurethane bushings
questionable manufacturing quality
 
 
2Bennett:

2B Camber/Caster adjust (Audi TT only??)
http://www.2bennett.com/body_tt.html
$499/pair
available now
fixed camber change up to about -2.0°
camber/caster are not independently adjustable
includes heavy duty spherical bearings for racing use
completely replaces strut mounts
requires drilling 5 holes or welding
 
 
Audi TT spindle & balljoint mod:
various parts
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1254442
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1496890
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1724405
$400-$1000 (less for used parts)
available now
replaces spindles, hubs, wheel bearings, balljoints, balljoint nut plates, lower control arms
balljoints must be modified to fit VW MkIV control arms, or TT control arms can be used
 
 
VWMS camber shims and kit-car spindle:
various parts
http://www.bildon.com/catalog/...g.pdf (page 124-125)
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1721706 (discussion thread)
$$$
available with kit car packages through http://www.bildon.com
 
 
Products in development:
Hans J's custom camber plates; independent camber/caster up to 2.25° with spherical bearing. IM Hans J for more info.
H2Sport drop spindles - http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1595208
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2005, 11:41:22 PM »

Wow.  Didn't know that many has sprung up.  The GC's still look like the ticket to me.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2005, 11:45:53 PM »

good stuff  Cool
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2005, 09:24:23 AM »


so how do these work?  do you put them on top and just tighten or loosen the bolt?
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2005, 03:44:14 AM »

I don't think those are for a MKIV. They look like eccentric toe links
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2005, 01:28:28 PM »

I've honestly never seen so many variations on camber plates.  The GC ones are basically standard for most strut setups.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2005, 01:49:31 PM »

Quote from: Dizzy
Wow.  Didn't know that many has sprung up.  The GC's still look like the ticket to me.

Wolf1.8 on 20valve and vortex is running them. He loves them! If you contact him, tell him Dustin sent you!
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