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« on: April 28, 2005, 06:34:55 PM » |
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Looking for a decent B I G Brake Kit for 2000 Golf GLS...
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2005, 06:47:23 PM » |
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The ECS larger rotor kits I have front and rear are decent but honestly after riding in a couple of cars with larger Calipers (StopTechs are :bowrofl: ) or even Boxster calipers I wish I would have saved up the couple of extra bills and gone that route!  and yes I know that roror is backwards, test fit |
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2005, 06:52:30 PM » |
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Have you noticed any chatter with those ECS brakes? I've heard from some people that slottted and cross-drilled rotors cause a lot of chattering.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2005, 09:19:24 PM » |
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On the fronts the cadium plating wore uneven at first at caused all sort of problems but after I had them resurfaced they run as if they were stock. With slightly more agressive pads they work pretty damn good on the mountain roads around my house. I have not noticed and noise due to the crossed drilling. Now on the rears . . . . I had noise problems. ECS is now investigating as there have been only 2 cases of this of all the sets they have sold (STG 1 kits) and they got both of them back (though I did have to pay a reduced rate to get new rotors ). They believe that the chamvering was not done quite right and that caused the problems. Soo as long as the drilling is done by a competent shop that understands the physics of it all they should be fine! -Patrick |
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2005, 09:33:20 PM » |
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Well these don't really qualify as a big brake kit but the 20th/337 GTI's brakes with stock Pagid pads stop like a MOFO, compared to every other car I've driven. They are dusty as sin though.
If you can fit the R32 brakes, that would even be better. The R32's stopping distances is very short and that is with all that extra weight.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2005, 09:37:22 PM » |
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are the R32 brakes bigger?
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2005, 09:37:49 PM » |
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I was thinking about upgrading to the 20th brakes. From the 20ths I've driven, I can attest to the awesome stopping power they have over my brakes.
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2005, 09:42:08 PM » |
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Yes the R32 brakes are quite big (I don't have numbers). No 16" wheel is made that they can fit inside.
Here are my 20th brakes sizes: Front: 312 x 25 mm vented front discs and Rear: 256 x 22 mm vented rear discs
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2005, 09:56:46 PM » |
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The r32 ones are:
334mm 13.1" front ( 2-piston )
256mm 10" rear ( 1-piston )
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2005, 10:03:25 PM » |
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Ahh, since only the R32 fronts are bigger, if I were to pick one or the other for a regular GTI, I'd get the 20th brakes since the R32 brakes may add too much front brake bias for our lighter front end cars.
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2005, 10:12:03 PM » |
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Well these don't really qualify as a big brake kit but the 20th/337 GTI's brakes with stock Pagid pads stop like a MOFO, compared to every other car I've driven. They are dusty as sin though.
That's for damn sure, it's a curse and blessing at the same time. The way I see it is with brakes, it's one of those things to go all out on and should be done right. If money wasn't an object, I'd buy a set of Stoptech's tomorrow heh. |
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2005, 10:21:58 PM » |
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The R32's stopping distances is very short and that is with all that extra weight. Braking distances can be more attributed to the tire compound than the actual braking system itself. And those Michelin Pilot Sports are pretty damn sticky. |
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2005, 11:23:21 PM » |
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The R32's stopping distances is very short and that is with all that extra weight. Braking distances can be more attributed to the tire compound than the actual braking system itself. And those Michelin Pilot Sports are pretty damn sticky. R32's have the Goodyear F1 GS3's. :face: |
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2005, 11:36:12 PM » |
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i just got these recently ... neuspeed boxster caliper adapter kit (lines, rotors - TT sized, & brakets) ... you need to source your own calipers tho  |
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2005, 03:28:02 AM » |
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these are the neuspeed brackets  |
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2005, 05:18:04 PM » |
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How do they feel and/or perform?
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2005, 11:03:32 PM » |
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I have the ECS rotors front and rear with hawk Hp plus pads. Best bang for the buck. Plenty of stopping power. Auto-x and track i havent had any problems. I bleed the fluid pretty frequently though. Pedal modulation is no where near as good as a stoptech setup, but not even half the price either. If you're really a cad master flex you could work out some kind of an adapter bracket and put on any caliper you want :face: :face: love these new emoticons we need a shocker too
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2005, 08:08:32 AM » |
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I hear ya...I'd enjoy coming up with something but I'm too busy to realy apply myself :coffee: . I am defenitely looking into the R32 brake setup.
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2005, 04:00:49 PM » |
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Whatever you do go with Hawk Pads. HPS or HP Plus. :face:
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2005, 05:02:16 PM » |
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yep Hp plus :face: :face: I had mintex c-techs and they sucked. didn't work in the rain, and the particles that came off them were so big and hot that they melted spots in my wheels  they make front and rear |
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2005, 05:54:15 PM » |
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Do the Hawk HP Plus come with front and rear pads? I thought they only made front pads for MK4 VW's.
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« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2005, 05:11:25 AM » |
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i have hawk hps up front ... the rears are sucky mintex reds ... i wanna change those later. overall, initial bite is so much better w/ the current setup. i think if i ran hps all around, that should help quite a bit more.
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« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2005, 06:35:45 AM » |
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The Hawk HP+'s do have a pretty good initial bite, but the dust is pretty harsh on the wheel finish. The Axxis Ultimates provide about 80-90% of the initial bite, same heat capacity, but the compound can easily wipe off your wheels.
My next pad that I'll try are either the Porterfield R4S's, or the Carbotech Bobcats.
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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2005, 09:45:41 AM » |
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can you get the newspeed brackets only
I have the 312 mm disks and can source boxter calipers....
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