New suspension installed

[MerryBerry]

Wow, what an awesome ride. Quite stiff, but handles unbelievably.

Before:



FK 60/40 installed:







Woot woot!  

[Iceman]

Much better!   LMAO at the first pic .

[beenaround]

Sweet! How much of a drop is that? 1.5 - 2?

[MerryBerry]

60mm in the front, 40mm in the rear

[HardIce2447]

yes, the first pic is awesome...the use of the "Shocker" in the after pic would have been key :face:

does look alot nicer with the drop...how does she ride now?

[MerryBerry]

It'll take some getting used to, that's for sure. The ride's quite stiff and can feel every little bump in the road, but it handles friggin awesome, and I like the drop. Another month and it'll be "normal" for me.

[Toight1point8Turbo]

That first one was great!  Looks like you could use some spacers on the rear at least.  Noice!
You will get used to it in no time at all, Sir!
Then you will say
"Naa, Baby, she don't ride rough, she's like glue!"  Mmmmm, I like glue!  :face:

[BigAl03GTI]

looks really nice, glad to see a nice little drop there :driving:

[elitedübs]

very nice man. looks much better.

[ricerocket]

Looks nice.  Except.  You need wheel spacers.

[MerryBerry]

Thanks for the compliments, everyone.
I'm working on the spacers. And I still need to get an alignment. What kind of spacers do I need? I don't know much about them.

[beenaround]

It looks as if you could go with anything between 12mm and 25mm- They have group buys going on everywhere and http://www.parts4vws.com/ sells em.

[MerryBerry]

Is there any difference between FK spacers and the H&R? I found 4x100 15mm Fk Type A hubcentric spacers for $59 which I thought wasn't bad.

http://www.amimotorsports.com/main.htm

[beenaround]

Probably just the name... but I dont know for sure I am positive someone here will know- Some companies actually do use different metal but when you talk about to big name companies, usually the differences are not that much.

[HardIce2447]

call John at http://www.fastaddiction.com ...I got my spacers through him..they are not listed on the site, that is just the stuff he keeps in stock...but can get just about anything you want or need...Plus, he is a nice guy to talk to and will not force you into a sale..

He is located in Castleton, VT, which is a few miles from Rutland, VT

[MerryBerry]

I called him and he just kinda confused me more.

People say you should get hubcentric spacers. Yet, he said that 8mm hubcentrics would be useless since the hubcentric part would slide right onto the hub and not space the wheels out any. 15mm would require pulling the fenders, which I won't do.

Maybe I'll just go with 10mm non-hubcentric.

[elitedübs]

People say you should get hubcentric spacers. Yet, he said that 8mm hubcentrics would be useless since the hubcentric part would slide right onto the hub and not space the wheels out any..

that makes no sense. if you add 8mm (hubcentric or not) its gonna move the wheel out.

i'd definitely get hubcentric, because thats what centers the wheel on the hub. also make sure you get lug bolts. also find out what lug bolt seat you have, either ball seat (OEM wheels, normally) or conical seat (aftermarket wheels, normally).

[MerryBerry]

I just called up parts4vws.com and he assured me that I will still get a full 8mm on the H&R hubcentric spacers, so I think I'll go with that. I've been confused all day on what I was doing. I think I've finally decided on those.  

I gotta get an alignment soon, though.  

[Toight1point8Turbo]

You most certainly do!  Or no more  :driving:

[beenaround]

I have been looking into a set of Porsche wheels for the car- SO I was inquiring about a set of 5x112 to 5x130 adapters and they are hubcentric 25mm. Now I was told if I go with these I will NOT have to roll my fenders? Is this cause of the offset of the rim? Or is the guy im talking to just trying to make the sale?? He said he was ablet o fit the 17x7.5 and 17x9 under his fenders with 215/45-17 and 235/40-17-

I dont really wanna hijack the thread but it does have to do with spacers~

By the way, I cant believe no one asked you what type of springs did you go with? Did you replace the shocks?

[elitedübs]

beenaround, he could be right. it does have to do with the width and offset of the wheel. i don't know if hes right or wrong  though...

[beenaround]

I am a little nervous- It would be very expensive to buy the wheels, new tires and adapters to find out I would have to roll the fenders, or they constantly rubbed. Everyone knows you never get back what you put in and I dont wanna spend all that money and sell them for a loss 2 weeks later.

[elitedübs]

i hear ya. maybe you could ask around on b5one or passatworld?

[Pike]

Damn that's a nice tuck bro, looks sweet.

[beenaround]

I just ordered a set of the 8mm H&R spacers from parts4vws excellent service! They told me I will have them by Thrusday. I hope the stance is gonna be wide enough. I did not get the spacers with the lip, they were out of stock and on back order, they told me the only difference is it makes installing them a little more convenient by being able to hang them off the hub. The drop will be next, but I think I am only gonna go an 1" I hate Jerzey roads, trying to avoid potholes is impossible :eek3dance:

[MerryBerry]

No, that's not the only difference. Here's some info that I found out about hubcentric spacers:


What is the difference between hubcentric and lugcentric spacers?


Hubcentric spacers have a recess that fits onto the hub as well as a protrusion that fits into the back of the wheel. When installed, a hubcentric spacer meshes with a section of the wheel and a section of the hub at the same time. The hub, spacer and wheel become mechanically joined together through the clamping force of the lugnuts.

Lugcentric spacers are completely flat. When installed, they only serve as a spacer and do not allow the hub and wheel to remain mechanically linked.



Which is better: hubcentric or lugcentric spacers?


Hubcentric spacers are strongly preferred. Because they become directly linked with both the wheel and hub, hubcentric spacers have two distinct advantages:

1. The wheel will always be perfectly centered on the hub when the spacer is installed.
2. The load on the wheel is transferred through the spacer directly to the wheel hub. This is because the spacer is supporting the wheel while the hub supports the spacer.

Lugcentric spacers, on the other hand, rely on the studs to center and support the wheel. The wheel load is then transferred through the wheel studs instead of the hub. This can cause stresses on the OEM studs for which they were not designed. The result may be accelerated fatigue or tension overload of the wheel studs. When over-stressed, wheel studs WILL eventually break.

[Iceman]

call John at http://www.fastaddiction.com ...I got my spacers through him..they are not listed on the site, that is just the stuff he keeps in stock...but can get just about anything you want or need...Plus, he is a nice guy to talk to and will not force you into a sale..

He is located in Castleton, VT, which is a few miles from Rutland, VT

I second this! :checkit:   I called John a couple of hours ago.  Ordered up a pair of 8mm spacers, and bolts for the front.  He is definelty a nice guy, and is honest and eager to help.  His prices are good also.  Support a local guy, (somewhat local for me  :face: ), and hit up his site, or call if you need something.

[beenaround]

Ok maybe I wrote that too quick- the spacers I bought do not have a lip BUT all spacers have some sort of lip. The guy I spoke with on the phone said he races his car with the same type of spacers I bought but 15mm. They look like these, They have a lip but they do not recess into the wheel. So I guess they are not hubcentric, I understend the stress factor but I do not think I am going to be driving hard enough that I will break bolts. I also bought bolts that were designed to work with the OE wheel.

[Iceman]

Nice.  I don't see any problem with those at all!   It just may take an extra few seconds to put the wheels on,  but no biggie.

[beenaround]

Yeah I will most likely need to balence the wheel on my feet and then glide it onto the hub- I also did not mean to sound like I knew it all, I was only relaying what I was told. I am by no means a mechanic and I have only owned this car for about 8 months, which by the way is my first VW- it will not be my last either- I certainly hope I dont break any bolts. I have only cough cough... driven Rice in the past, and although most of the mods are similar, they also have mods I have never even thought of for a VW. Hey Im still learning- this was only a $75 lesson, believe me it is CHEAP compared to what I have found out in the past-