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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2006, 05:19:20 AM » |
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bob how bad would it be with revo ECu and 3653's.. I mean what would it effect idle... I can increase idle with lemmi.
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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2006, 01:29:35 PM » |
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Good question. I don't really know..I'm sure you could make it run fine at WOT, it's the part throttle and cruise that may be a problem. Someone will have to try it.
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« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2006, 12:26:05 AM » |
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I'll be looking into a set of the 3653's to compliment the raddo's head work, exhaust mani and intake mani...tho this will be run on a Tec3r.
Bob, would you recommend a set of cat springs with the 3653's?
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« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2006, 01:58:36 AM » |
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I'll be looking into a set of the 3653's to compliment the raddo's head work, exhaust mani and intake mani...tho this will be run on a Tec3r.
Bob, would you recommend a set of cat springs with the 3653's?
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« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2006, 03:10:54 AM » |
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ive got all sorts of little bucking issues with mine. not sure if its cams, or the software.
it was pretty smooth as i recall on my last file.
but hard to be sure.
maybe if mike sends me the new 630cc file hes been working on all summer ill give it a go before the snow flies.
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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2007, 06:42:15 AM » |
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Here is my piper intake cam next to stock cams, maybe a little mild for street use not sure yet.  |
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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2007, 09:28:16 PM » |
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Hi...
I have a question for the experts... If you had standalone and GT35R 0.63 like I have, would you take the 3652's? On a daily driver?
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« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2007, 09:46:10 PM » |
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update. my oddball part throttle was caused by a leaking intake manifold. not the cams.
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« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2007, 07:00:32 PM » |
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What cam's will work good with my set-up. It will be going into my AEB head adn my turbo set-up will get a custom GT35R .63 with all the supporting hardware
I'd say CAT 3653 or 3652. I'm doing an A4 engine now with 30R and 3653s- shooting for 400 pump, 500 race Im in the proccess of finishing a build and was looking into cams.... I was told 3659.... never heard, or does that just effect specs? |
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« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2007, 09:53:04 PM » |
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Nice, thanks. You have a bit more duration and lift  Don did your car have rough idle when you fitted the cams? mines rough as.... got them fitted, but now on different turbo again. cant make my mind up if they help or hinder. 60lb comp wheel on new turbo. |
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« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2007, 12:08:51 AM » |
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Hey Bill, glad you got them in. My idle is a bit more rougher, lobbier if you will. My vacuum at idle went from 20inHg to about 17.5inHg.
60lb wheel is going to decrease TIP-in response and in combonation with the cams pre 3500 rpm is going to be a slight more less aggressive from your previous setup. I see a defenite ramp-up in power from 5k all the way to 7500 rpm. 5500 rpm is where they really kick-in.
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« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2007, 07:00:18 AM » |
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My idle is a bit more rougher, lobbier if you will. My vacuum at idle went from 20inHg to about 17.5inHg.
I see a defenite ramp-up in power from 5k all the way to 7500 rpm. 5500 rpm is where they really kick-in.
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« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2007, 03:41:41 PM » |
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Hey Bill, glad you got them in. My idle is a bit more rougher, lobbier if you will. My vacuum at idle went from 20inHg to about 17.5inHg.
60lb wheel is going to decrease TIP-in response and in combonation with the cams pre 3500 rpm is going to be a slight more less aggressive from your previous setup. I see a defenite ramp-up in power from 5k all the way to 7500 rpm. 5500 rpm is where they really kick-in.
Wondering if I should stick the std cams back in and see.. revs to 8200rpm now, was going to explore higher revs by some 500rpm to offset the 500rpm slower spool. Once on song its just completely nutts. idle is lumpy.. I would like to recover some low end back on it, as peak power was previously at 8200rpm and this ones not going to be held back either. |
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« Reply #43 on: July 05, 2007, 08:47:39 PM » |
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i was looking at the cam sheets and saw specs at .056". what is this listed for it seems like an odd number to use. can someone tell me what the significants of this lift is? thank you
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« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2007, 10:13:03 PM » |
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Hey Bill, glad you got them in. My idle is a bit more rougher, lobbier if you will. My vacuum at idle went from 20inHg to about 17.5inHg.
60lb wheel is going to decrease TIP-in response and in combonation with the cams pre 3500 rpm is going to be a slight more less aggressive from your previous setup. I see a defenite ramp-up in power from 5k all the way to 7500 rpm. 5500 rpm is where they really kick-in.
Wondering if I should stick the std cams back in and see.. revs to 8200rpm now, was going to explore higher revs by some 500rpm to offset the 500rpm slower spool. Once on song its just completely nutts. idle is lumpy.. I would like to recover some low end back on it, as peak power was previously at 8200rpm and this ones not going to be held back either. What do you have the idle set to? Also, were they degreed in correctly? Looking at your specs, that cam should idle very well as there isn't a ton of overlap |
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« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2007, 04:43:27 PM » |
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Hey Bill, glad you got them in. My idle is a bit more rougher, lobbier if you will. My vacuum at idle went from 20inHg to about 17.5inHg.
60lb wheel is going to decrease TIP-in response and in combonation with the cams pre 3500 rpm is going to be a slight more less aggressive from your previous setup. I see a defenite ramp-up in power from 5k all the way to 7500 rpm. 5500 rpm is where they really kick-in.
Wondering if I should stick the std cams back in and see.. revs to 8200rpm now, was going to explore higher revs by some 500rpm to offset the 500rpm slower spool. Once on song its just completely nutts. idle is lumpy.. I would like to recover some low end back on it, as peak power was previously at 8200rpm and this ones not going to be held back either. What do you have the idle set to? Also, were they degreed in correctly? Looking at your specs, that cam should idle very well as there isn't a ton of overlap i have idle set to 1000rpm now to smooth out the idle. I did'nt fit the cams myself, so cant say what/how they timed them in. If they set them straight up, could they have got it wrong? (tooth either way?) |
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« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2007, 04:56:33 PM » |
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I suppose they could have missed by a tooth. What I meant was,did they use a degree wheel to dial them into the specs on the cam card. This requires an adjustable cam sprocket.
Also, did you retune for the cams?
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« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2007, 07:36:23 PM » |
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I suppose they could have missed by a tooth. What I meant was,did they use a degree wheel to dial them into the specs on the cam card. This requires an adjustable cam sprocket.
Also, did you retune for the cams?
i think nail on head here... no adjustable cam sprocket on mine... yet. catcams one ok to use i presume? you used em ok bob? {edit} by sprocket do you mean vernier pulley or cam to cam gear sprocket? which make? |
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« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2007, 02:31:22 AM » |
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I have used all the Cat cams hydro grinds sucessfully.
Both a belt sprocket and adjustments between the cams are very useful. For the belt, CAT makes a nice one, as does Eurospec.
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« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2007, 06:22:21 PM » |
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I have used all the Cat cams hydro grinds sucessfully.
Both a belt sprocket and adjustments between the cams are very useful. For the belt, CAT makes a nice one, as does Eurospec.
who's adjustable gear sprocket do you use Bob? Cats? (I have sold their vernier for 16v, pin type.. nice) |
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« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2007, 08:05:21 PM » |
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I have used all the Cat cams hydro grinds sucessfully.
Both a belt sprocket and adjustments between the cams are very useful. For the belt, CAT makes a nice one, as does Eurospec.
who's adjustable gear sprocket do you use Bob? Cats? (I have sold their vernier for 16v, pin type.. nice) The 1.8T CAT one is of the same construction- nice unit except they don't supply a key with it, so I make my own to ship with the sprockets. The pin thing looks nice..but I don't find it particularly useful. Overall, I actually like the Eurospec one a bit better. |
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« Reply #51 on: August 23, 2007, 09:16:21 PM » |
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ok bob.. how much for your reccommended sprocket and vernier pulley? bill@badger5.co.uk |
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« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2007, 09:19:36 AM » |
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Bob
Did you ever find the time to compare the various cams earlier in this thread, or is it waiting on your big dyno camparison session ?
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« Reply #53 on: November 30, 2007, 07:06:23 PM » |
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430whp pump, 550+whp race gas.eurodyne ecu, sc61 turbo, stock head (will be swapped with larger head aeb eventually) so whats the best cam for the setup? still need it very streetable as i do drive the car everyday its not raining.
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« Reply #54 on: November 30, 2007, 09:43:20 PM » |
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« Reply #55 on: November 30, 2007, 11:07:47 PM » |
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hey bob i sent you an email about getting the heads over to you... what cams would you suggest for my headwork? you mentioned something about a 51 and 53 combo  |
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« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2008, 09:53:18 AM » |
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Does anybody know if 3653s work without deleting VVT, with oem Compression Rate? |
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« Reply #57 on: October 30, 2008, 12:11:01 AM » |
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well on out stock ecu powered drag car the idle was rock solid with the 3653, we switched to 3652 idle is a bit lumpy but never got eurodyne to play with it since i only cared about more power. well we switch to 25" slicks Vs 26" and ran the wilder cams and ran best 10.2@150.4mph our previous best was 10.36@144mph we ran that with less boost, next year 9s on stock ME7 ecu  Huge thanks to Bob for the cams really help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMfcrhTme2I |
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You have that car run running great , Was that the smaller turbo? or the bigger turbo? I know you where swaping things around last time I saw you run at E-town @ Waterfest That was a 9 sec run 155 trap if you had the correct gearing to respool that turbo between gear changes IMO . great job  Bob.G
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« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2008, 01:52:28 AM » |
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at waterfest we ran the s362 and s366 wich the 366 was slow to respool so had them build a s364 wich is running awesome, really looking into getting better gear ratio/tranny but money is a bit tight, so will see but your right at 150mph we should be in the 9.6-9.9 range, but for our first year we are very happy. We will run stronger next year. Top end is amazing with the 3653, eurodyne software is perfect kept the motor togheter all year no issues at all
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